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By: HRM Today - Blog Archive » Your Conference Experience May Vary

HRM Today - Blog Archive » Your Conference Experience May Vary — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:39:06 +0000

[...] conclusion, my feelings about raging against SHRM havenâ€™t changed thanks to the conference. I saw people that, given the same opportunities as [...]

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Your Conference Experience May Vary | YourHRGuy.com — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:13:18 +0000

[...] conclusion, my feelings about raging against SHRM haven’t changed thanks to the conference. I saw people that, given the same opportunities as [...]

By: Chris Young

Chris Young — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:41:36 +0000

Powerful post Lance! HR is truly responsible for its own fate and can’t afford to wait for an organization like SHRM to earn the respect it so sorely desires. I’ve shared you post with my readers in weekly Rainmaker ‘Fab Five’ blog picks of the week (found here: http://www.maximizepossibility.com/employee_retention/2009/04/the-rainmaker-fab-five-blog-picks-of-the-week.html) so that they may feel the same sense of inspiration I felt after reading your post.

Be well Lance!

By: JSchneider

JSchneider — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:41:10 +0000

Lance,
I completely agree with the second position. I was working with SHRM for a full two years, and running into problems with them at ever turn. Like you said, working outside of them is not that bad! Right now I’m working with a smaller online company that gives me all the knowledge and tools that I could possibly need, and since they are a small company, they actually value my business! The company I use now is iworkwell.com, they are just one option to try outside of SHRM. I think that people shouldn’t bash SHRM, but they should just look for other alternatives…

By: Lance Haun

Lance Haun — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:51:30 +0000

@Jason – I love complaining but it only takes us so far. Recognize the problem, formulate a plan and act.

@Jessica – High road. I like it.

@William – I agree. Working outside of the organization can help push it forward.

@Dan – I think you hit some excellent points there. I don’t know about a bailout but certainly a different way of thinking.

@Karen – I think that’s what pushes people to move away from SHRM. They are big and they have good money. They assume a small member can’t do much.

@SJ – Yes. I’m not quite sure I would have picked that analogy but it is true.

By: SJDelaney

SJDelaney — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:16:17 +0000

I think this is an excellent call to action. Choose option one or option two; it’s time to get off the pot.

Blog-Squawking gets HR nowhere. For better or worse, for the most part SHRM is an ACTIVE participant. If you think they can do then better- get involved.

-sjd

By: Karen Mattonen

Karen Mattonen — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:39:51 +0000

Excellent Article Lance

You made some fantastic points, and indeed it does take the Village to Raise the child..

The one position that caught my attention is the following quote – “ther times, I would argue that it is more for SHRMâ€™s benefit than the HR professionâ€™s benefit.”

Which unfortunately creates the conundrum – and one that I have personally seen happen on several association on several occasions – When Big Bucks, or Larger Influence is inv0lved, even the best of intentions can be diminished, squelched or quieted.

Sometimes unfortunately even the squeaky wheel may be burned instead of getting the grease.

karen mattonen

By: Dan Erwin

Dan Erwin — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:27:50 +0000

I’m a member of SHRM, but I find the ongoing frustration about no seat at the strategy table or no direct lines to organizational power both tiring and frustrating.

I also think that 21st century HR desperately needs to lead in ways that to many in the field seem outside the pale.

I also suspect that much of the national and political restructuring in the fields of health care and retirement will wreach havoc on HR. That may require some bail-outs of HR execs not unlike those of some auto-execs.

This national, governmental, business and community restructuring is going to be really messy–but necessary.

http://www.danerwin.com

By: William

William — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:20:12 +0000

I’ll bang on my local chapter of SHRM, if asked. I’ve invested time in that organization and realized it was ill-spent. I learned and moved to alternative groups as well as solo. You don’t need to be a “member” of SHRM to affect change SHRM: 1) The market is big enough for competition 2) People vote with their feet and pocketbook. When SHRM figures out they have customers – not members (a critical difference), their leadership will be able to see its potential.

By: jessica lee

jessica lee — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:29:51 +0000

i think this is smart.

option one… Sharlyn is such an excellent example and her attitude towards SHRM was actually what made me rethink my approach towards the SHRM beast and what i see as their deficiencies.

option two… it’s like taking the high road in the HR vs. Finance debate, or the always so popular “i hate HR” discussion. rise above, and do something else, or do better. simple.

good stuff.